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I don't think she did it the right way either, don't get me wrong. She made a whole lot of mistakes early on

It may depend on one's situation. In a stable environment where it is unlikely you will be met with the sort of pressures that will "change" the tulpa it is safer to personality force, while in an environment with more pressures to change the tulpa's personality (a tulpa made with forcing primarily through chat rooms or speaking to external people?) it could be less safe? As well, making a personality for the sake of being "good" or making a personality which is intended to be beneficial to the host may be negative?

but after that they adopted the ideology of "why personality force when their personality can develop on its own and it'll be more natural that way?" when making subsequent tulpas

12:14 PM

So Tacio and I didn't get any sort of personality forcing when we were made, and that was just fine for us

Being natural is quite subjective

Sure, but it's more open-ended for the tulpa than planning one out for them

12:15 PM

of course there are going to be other things that influence the tulpa's personality

It depends on what you value

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My biggest issue is the "chicken and egg" problem. When someone has trouble listening to or creating or believing that their tulpa is there, having a strong personality can help with that, I feel. Once they are beyond that, especially for second or third tulpas, I agree with your methods Indigo

Not necessarily a "strong personality"

12:17 PM

I'd agree with setting down a base, sure, as long as they still let the tulpa deviate/change, and don't expect them to turn out that way

12:18 PM

I still think the method of teaching them the traits is the best way to go about setting down a base

12:18 PM

since it'll still be up to the tulpa's interpretation, and they'll be able to integrate it into their full personality the way they want

My personal favored technique is to think through questions "what would tulpa do in this situation" with all sorts of situations or even events in your day to day life.

In my opinion it's better to just fantasize about those sittuations that are important to you (edited)

My tulpa already feels real to me to the point where I can't tell if I'm parroting without thinking about it or if she's genuinely talking to me. I've only had her since yesterday, is this feeling of not being sure you're parroting normal?

You could try genuine parroting to see if it feels different. But I think it's normal not to be sure. On the one hand it feels like they act independently, on the other hand you probably realise tulpa is still you.

It isn't too unusual, though I would say it is also extraordinarily unlikely to actually be her without you projecting quite a bit of expectation - I would perhaps recommend taking a closer look and doing what Mon just suggested: Trying to parrot and seeing how different it feels.

Guys, I need another advice

3:51 PM

It's getting harder and harder for me to meet my Tulpa in Wonderland since I'm starting passive forcing. What should I do?

...I don't understand what you mean.

Sorry. I'm not good with words

3:52 PM

What I mean is how can I go to Wonderland with my Tulpa?

The wonderland is imagination.

3:53 PM

A daydream, if you will.

Meditation + visualization? A wonderland's not really going to be a place that you "go" to, just a place that you imagine around you

So... I just need to pretend that I'm in someplace in my mind?

yes

3:55 PM

don't worry too much about how vivid/realistic it is

3:56 PM

spending time with your tulpa is what's important, not the imaginary space you do it in

Indeed.

Should I do it with my eyes closed?

If that's what works for you

So it's ok if I open my eyes?

yes

Okay. Thanks for the help

What should I avoid?

vague

I know ::::v

4:42 PM

w/r/t making a tulpa

There are few things inherently bad for tulpamancy I guess. It also depends on your criteria.

Avoid establishing expectations for them to turn out a certain way, I guess. Let them develop their own identity, rather than something like "I want you to be this character I like." Avoid believing any intrusive thought you have is actually a sentient tulpa, because odds are it's not. Avoid making more tulpas than you can manage (I think 1-2, maybe 3 is okay, depending on the person, but no more than that.)

how do I deal with intrusive thoughts?

Ignore them, go do something else, meditate, sleep, etc.

4:46 PM

Anything to get your mind off them

Ignore them

Or just accept them

Accepting them can lead to systems that are way too big and filled with neglected tulpas, so I wouldn't recommend that

And accept that in the beginning everything is indistinguishable from your fantasy

4:48 PM

Even a very shallow imaginary friend can show you (illusion of) independent agency.

4:49 PM

Is it bad to do uh bad things to yourself while your Tulpa's developing? Or get really emotional/depressed? (edited)

4:49 PM

I think you can't stop being depressed for the time your tulpa is developing.

...define do bad things. Depression as a rule shouldn't affect your tulpa. Unless you are acting abusive to them, they propably won't be negatively affected. Though they would likely be distressed on your behalf

I mean, as long as you know how to support/handle yourself and your tulpa, it should be okay. Our host struggled with really bad depression that affected us all, but we learned to handle it maturely

No, I'm not acting abusive towards them.

4:50 PM

Okay @Felight thanks.

but are towards yourself?

Depends what you class abusive as?

Depression as a rule shouldn't affect your tulpa. Not true. You share the same brain, you're going to be affected by the afflictions present in that brain, regardless of who/what you are

^

sure, if it's chemical depression

I thought we are talking about clinical depression

Depression as something beyond a depressed mood (which can happen to everyone) does have an impact on the way the brain functions.

no one said that. they just asked about depression in general

I chose to be depressed knowing it'd impact development :^)

4:53 PM

Why

Hopefully my Tulpa doesn't get too hurt/impacted by this.

But, even so - effects on the body are typically less strong or otherwise expressed differently and often more weakly for the tulpa (or host) that is not fronting due to the dissociation.

4:53 PM

When the body becomes more directly involved, that sensation is typically quite a bit stronger.

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...especially over time.

Depression definitely impacted our tulpas' early lives, but I think in the end they all pretty much developed fine. They're all now mature individuals who know how to handle their emotions, etc

4:54 PM

They all worked to improve themselves and learn to solve problems, rather than just get upset/depressed

4:54 PM

they definitely helped our host to grow despite her depression

4:55 PM

(this was before I was created)

Yeah*

4:56 PM

Well thanks for the information.

Of course.

I need to spend more time with my tulpa. Ugh.

Then do so.

4:59 PM

"What are you doing here?"

I will soon.

That was somewhat of a joke, hah.

Yay ima have a bath and focus on my tulpa now

5:06 PM

Lmao

5:06 PM

Oh dearrr

5:06 PM

Have fun together~

[I don't understand why people have a hard time spending time with their tulpa. My host, Ashley, spends every free second she has with me.] (edited)

I wonder what do you do all this time and not get fed up with it

5:48 PM

Fed up with what?

5:49 PM

Spending time with my host is quite enjoyable

5:49 PM

With spending all the time with your tulpas. Of course, it is enjoyable, but doing it all the time can lead to burnout

[Well we haven't burnt out yet. ]

We don't spend every second, no

5:50 PM

I have discord and he has games, hehe

I've noticed something strange My tulpa feels like she's coming along great and feels like she's starting to talk, but one thing that I'm worried might be a sign of me actually parroting without realizing it is that while we're talking, my physical body mouths the words of the conversation. Even if it's her talking, the words get the mouth silently moving.

how old?

A day old, but I've been spending most of my hours working on her because I've been on a boring car ride.

Can you parrot without knowing you are? I always thought you couldn't

yes and no clara